Should I Again Take Baptism In Jesus Name Again?
Q: As usual you make another great post about Baptism. I am attending a church right now who has mentioned to me more than once that people should be baptized in the name of Jesus -- because that is what the Apostles did.
I had a Trinity Baptism and it worked just fine, thank you.
You said, 'Is there a discrepancy?', and it does look like there is to me-- but you said there isn't. But clearly the Bible says different things.
Of course it seems to all be the same. In the big picture.
I am curious to get a baptism in the name of Jesus, just to see if anything changes.
But I baptize myself everyday in the shower! If you dedicate your life to Jesus, the semantics are just trivial. I think.
I actually WANT another one in Jesus name because they keep talking about it and saying "if I need more from God, get the baptism in the name of Jesus".. But also I want the experience to see what happens. There is absolutely no reason to do it- how I feel-- instantly after the baptism all evil magic started clearing out from me. And NOTHING happened until I had a baptism. And besides the name of the FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT- well the Son IS JESUS- so I kinda don't get it really.
A : Both are right if only we understand that it is all the same. You don't have to do it again. Yes it is trivial and it is the semantics that people are so much concerned about. If you have faith that you have done rightly, stick on to it and ask the Lord to give you His assurance. You will be doing fine. But getting baptized by a good Pastor or a Believer who believes in the whole Bible, will be a great testimony booster and an encouragement for your spiritual life. Discrepancy is in our lack of understanding the power of Trinity deposited in that one name JESUS. One God who is three in person. Getting baptism in the name of Jesus will again make you declare your testimony to still other believers, not a wrong thing when you want to do it. As commanded by Jesus it is a must, if we have newly committed our life to Jesus (Matt 28:19-20).
People insisting to take the Baptism in the name of Jesus only do not get it because they see the name not as a something which contains the whole power of the Trinity in it, but rather see as something separate from Trinity. This creates a cultic tendency to emphasize just the name of Jesus and leave the power of the Trinity that backs the name. The apostles never doubted this fact, they always had relationship not just with one person but with three person through the one name Jesus that God has given to them (1 John 1:3-4; Acts 15:28).
Never believe the lie that you will get more if you use just the name of Jesus. There is nothing different in using the name, but the power behind is what matters. If Jesus Himself has told his disciples and his apostles to baptize believers in "the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit", which is bigger? The words of Jesus or using just the name of Jesus as prescribed by apostles. If only we understand that both are the same, then we can say obedience to the command of Jesus is what the apostles fulfilled in the book of Acts (Matt 28:19; Acts 2:38-39; 8:12; 10:48; 19:5) and they are not two different thing but the same. The power of the Trinity starts to work in the life of a person only when they believe and accept Jesus as the Son of God, I mean God in the flesh who died for our sins (Acts 8:37-38; 1 John 3:23; 4:2, 15; 5:1, 12-13). This is the only prerequisite to take baptism, and the name in which it is given did not cause division in the first century Church because they understood that Trinity stands united in its power behind the name of Jesus.
To simply say, if A=B whether we use A in a particular place or B in it doesn't matter much as long as we are using it to substitute its value and not the identity itself. So the name of Jesus in the only thing which is given under heaven to disperse the authority of the Trinity on earth (Acts 4:12). The only other substitute for the name of Jesus can be the combined name of Trinity itself only which is "the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit". Once you become a child of God, you have become entitled to its privileges (John 1:12). You cannot become more of God's child by taking a second baptism in Jesus name. It is more like delving in to unbelief if we think both as a different thing altogether. Jesus is the physical representation of the whole Trinity (John 14:10; Matt 12:10). All the three persons were involved in depositing the authority of the Trinity in the name of Jesus, the Father Loved us, the Son died for us and the Holy Spirit regenerated and renewed us in to the salvation that has been achieved for us (John 3:16; Rom 5:8; Tit 2:5). The name of Jesus was given to us only after the whole Trinity achieved the full salvation for us (Phil 2:2-10; Eph 1:22). So now tell me which name is right to baptize people in, both are right!!!
For this reason I suggested a new way by saying the following, "To have dispute in the matters related to water baptism which divided the Church in the 20th century is totally unnecessary and can be avoided now with better understanding about the name of Jesus. Name represents authority. So we can use these following words to baptize believers in water and still be united in our faith, ' I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit by the authority of the name of Jesus Christ...'. This will give a better understanding to the believers about the unity of the Trinity in the name Jesus".
Much Blessings......
I had a Trinity Baptism and it worked just fine, thank you.
You said, 'Is there a discrepancy?', and it does look like there is to me-- but you said there isn't. But clearly the Bible says different things.
Of course it seems to all be the same. In the big picture.
I am curious to get a baptism in the name of Jesus, just to see if anything changes.
But I baptize myself everyday in the shower! If you dedicate your life to Jesus, the semantics are just trivial. I think.
I actually WANT another one in Jesus name because they keep talking about it and saying "if I need more from God, get the baptism in the name of Jesus".. But also I want the experience to see what happens. There is absolutely no reason to do it- how I feel-- instantly after the baptism all evil magic started clearing out from me. And NOTHING happened until I had a baptism. And besides the name of the FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT- well the Son IS JESUS- so I kinda don't get it really.
A : Both are right if only we understand that it is all the same. You don't have to do it again. Yes it is trivial and it is the semantics that people are so much concerned about. If you have faith that you have done rightly, stick on to it and ask the Lord to give you His assurance. You will be doing fine. But getting baptized by a good Pastor or a Believer who believes in the whole Bible, will be a great testimony booster and an encouragement for your spiritual life. Discrepancy is in our lack of understanding the power of Trinity deposited in that one name JESUS. One God who is three in person. Getting baptism in the name of Jesus will again make you declare your testimony to still other believers, not a wrong thing when you want to do it. As commanded by Jesus it is a must, if we have newly committed our life to Jesus (Matt 28:19-20).
People insisting to take the Baptism in the name of Jesus only do not get it because they see the name not as a something which contains the whole power of the Trinity in it, but rather see as something separate from Trinity. This creates a cultic tendency to emphasize just the name of Jesus and leave the power of the Trinity that backs the name. The apostles never doubted this fact, they always had relationship not just with one person but with three person through the one name Jesus that God has given to them (1 John 1:3-4; Acts 15:28).
Never believe the lie that you will get more if you use just the name of Jesus. There is nothing different in using the name, but the power behind is what matters. If Jesus Himself has told his disciples and his apostles to baptize believers in "the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit", which is bigger? The words of Jesus or using just the name of Jesus as prescribed by apostles. If only we understand that both are the same, then we can say obedience to the command of Jesus is what the apostles fulfilled in the book of Acts (Matt 28:19; Acts 2:38-39; 8:12; 10:48; 19:5) and they are not two different thing but the same. The power of the Trinity starts to work in the life of a person only when they believe and accept Jesus as the Son of God, I mean God in the flesh who died for our sins (Acts 8:37-38; 1 John 3:23; 4:2, 15; 5:1, 12-13). This is the only prerequisite to take baptism, and the name in which it is given did not cause division in the first century Church because they understood that Trinity stands united in its power behind the name of Jesus.
To simply say, if A=B whether we use A in a particular place or B in it doesn't matter much as long as we are using it to substitute its value and not the identity itself. So the name of Jesus in the only thing which is given under heaven to disperse the authority of the Trinity on earth (Acts 4:12). The only other substitute for the name of Jesus can be the combined name of Trinity itself only which is "the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit". Once you become a child of God, you have become entitled to its privileges (John 1:12). You cannot become more of God's child by taking a second baptism in Jesus name. It is more like delving in to unbelief if we think both as a different thing altogether. Jesus is the physical representation of the whole Trinity (John 14:10; Matt 12:10). All the three persons were involved in depositing the authority of the Trinity in the name of Jesus, the Father Loved us, the Son died for us and the Holy Spirit regenerated and renewed us in to the salvation that has been achieved for us (John 3:16; Rom 5:8; Tit 2:5). The name of Jesus was given to us only after the whole Trinity achieved the full salvation for us (Phil 2:2-10; Eph 1:22). So now tell me which name is right to baptize people in, both are right!!!
For this reason I suggested a new way by saying the following, "To have dispute in the matters related to water baptism which divided the Church in the 20th century is totally unnecessary and can be avoided now with better understanding about the name of Jesus. Name represents authority. So we can use these following words to baptize believers in water and still be united in our faith, ' I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit by the authority of the name of Jesus Christ...'. This will give a better understanding to the believers about the unity of the Trinity in the name Jesus".
Much Blessings......
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