What Is The Wrath Of God? When It Will Start And End?
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Question: Wrath Of God Is Only Bowls Or Trumpets Too? What about the birth Pangs of great disasters, will it be included as the wrath of God or not? Will Israel as a nation will only experience the Great Tribulation, or the whole world according to Jesus?
Rapture before Sealing of 666... but only after the abomination of desolation, do we need to see this as mid-tribulation or pre-tribulation?
People might ask, questions like, so the abomination of desolation isn’t that Mid-Trib?Are you referring to the rapture happening in the middle of the Tribulation?
Answer: Greetings to you in Jesus wonderful name!
To that my answer is, it isn't mid-trib because nowhere the Bible supports the Idea of a 7 year Tribulation, except those by tradition have called all of the Daniel 70th week as the time of Tribulation. In fact, the above is pre Tribulation after the abomination of desolation.
What many consider as the Pretrib should be called as pre-Daniel 70th week Rapture, because the time of peace and safety comes for the first three and half years of the peace covenant of Antichrist. This will be a intense time of deception that apostle Paul warned the Church about. Then someone might ask, will there not be birth Pangs Tribulation that will be happening at this time? Yes birth Pangs will be happening around the world at this time, but it was called by Jesus himself not as Tribulation, but only as the times of sorrows to happen as a precursor event to happen before the abomination of desolation takes place at the midpoint of Daniel 70th week. The only Tribulation that Jesus spoke about was the Great Tribulation which He predicted and foretold will happen after the abomination of desolation takes place. So it is better to trust in the Lord's word through Scripture, than to be deceived by traditions.
Only Rapture after abomination of desolation fits the Biblical narrative so perfectly that you don't have to import any of your thoughts in to it to make it work. All Scripture will work together and blend in to the Biblical narrative so naturally that we will finally come to experience the peace of God regarding the end times!
From which nation of the world the Antichrist will come from? In today's world map which is Assyrian stretch? Part of Iran, Iraq, Syria and part of Turkey. So an Assyrian is someone who will be able to control the whole middle east Moslem nations, that mainly combine these specific nations described above, that will be the Antichrist place of his origin. He will be from the above specified area with a worldwide influence during the end time. Specifically Antichrist will make European Union dance to its tune, which will be the last super power.
Because all of them will receive Antichrist as their Messiah. The wrath of God will come upon the whole world which will include Israel. When Jeremiah wrote to the nation of Israel He calls the Great Tribulation as Jacob's trouble. In these last days Jesus is speaking to the gentile Church, so he speaks the Great Tribulation as coming upon the whole world (Rev 3:10).
The following verses are the only ones that gets lined up in the Holy Bible Word Search for the phrase "wrath of God".
John 3:36: "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Romans 1:18: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
Ephesians 5:6: Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
Colossians 3:6: Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
Revelation 15:1: Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous: seven angels having the seven last plagues, for in them the wrath of God is complete.
Revelation 15:7: Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives forever and ever.
Revelation 16:1: Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, "Go and pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth.
Note: God's wrath is coming upon all the sons of disobedience and not upon believers, so from the time of Trumpets God starts to show his angry face to the world through the two prophets who will operate it for three and half years to torment the earth dwellers.
Truly the bowls are the wrath that completes God's wrath, but it will start with the Trumpets and that is why we see in Rev 15:1 "in them the wrath of God is complete." We need to ask ourselves the question, if the wrath of God gets completed through bowls judgment when did it start? It actually started with the "woe" wrath of the Trumpets which are operated by the two prophets in the second half of Daniel 70th week (Rev 8:13; 9:12; 11:14; 12:12).
The exact time of woe Jesus told how pregnant and nursing mothers will suffer on earth in an unprecedented way during the Great Tribulation time, this is the timeline of the near sealing of 666 of Antichrist will happen, after whom many will run after greedily for his money (i.e Digital Universal Basic Income) to sell their soul to Satan like Balaam and Judas and be condemned in hell fire (Matt 24:19; Mark 13:17; Luke 21:23; Jude 1:11; Matt 26:24).
As God Himself has given all things in to the hands of Jesus, He will be the one who will open up the wrath of God as the Book of Revelation reveals, in Revelation 6:16 where people of the world crying in their torment saying, "...to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!"". This shows that what the Bible calls as the "great day of His wrath has come" (Rev 6:17), will start only right after the abomination that leads to desolation of the whole world in the second three and half years of the Daniel 70th week. But the whole of the first three and half years of Daniel 70th week is when the seals are opened and the false time of peace will prevail in the whole world by the deceit of Antichrist. Praise the Lord!
Q: The seal judgments aren't peace and safety. The whole seven years is worst than anything on earth before?
A: The seal judgments are not the wrath of God, but rather "the beginning of the sorrows" of the end of the world (Matt 24:8), Revelation 6th chapter speaks about the same 3 and half years until the wrath of the Lamb starts through the mid-point immediately after the abomination of desolation, through the two prophet who will operate the Trumpets until the last seal will be opened. Only the Trumpets will be counted as the wrath of God starting time.
Q: Mid-trib has the least support of all. It's also been thoroughly shown to be wrong by many others, as you well know.
A: Who cares for support when in Noah's time only 8 people were saved out of the millions and millions who were drowned in the wrath of God through a worldwide flood. Jesus warned that it will be also like wise in our generation, (i.e). only those who have personal relationship with Him to obey His word will be saved out from the Great Tribulation, and all others will be deceived by false peace and safety to be left behind. By the way, in a recent survey in a big Rapture believing group, the results astonished me... because more than 45% of saints believed in Rapture taking place after abomination of desolation. Just to tell you of what happened...but regarding believing in the truth, it is of no great value except to know that we are not alone but many other saints believe the same too. God bless you
Q: Matthew 24:29–31 (ESV): The Coming of the Son of Man.
"29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matthew 24:29-31).
Rapture is AFTER the Great Tribulation. Not before.
Thanks.
A: That Scripture in Matthew 24:29-31, is when the Great Tribulation will end and the second coming of Jesus Christ will happen. That is when not only the nation of Israel will mourn but the whole world will be seeking for a deliverer and a Savior to come out of the devastation's caused both by Antichrist and God's wrath, so bad enough that if the hope of all nations who is Jesus Christ if he fails to come, humans could not survive on this planet earth which will become late great planet earth by that time because of radiation (Hag 2:7; Zec 12:9, 10-12). God bless you.
Q: The Whole Tribulation is God's Wrath.............. 7 Seals 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. Total 21 Wrath of God Judgement. Numbers have great meaning to God.... 21 in Hebrew means the exceedingly wickedness of sin. Also please read Rev 5. No one But Jesus can open the Seals........and EVERY seal says and when the Lamb opened the Seal......and then in the 6th Seal.....its So Terrifying that people cry out Hide us from the Wrath of the Lamb!
A: It is like this....the seals and horses of different colors will happen during the first three and half years time, it is not the wrath of the Lamb but rather the time of sorrows for the world (Matthew 24:8). How could we know for sure that it will not add up in the wrath of God or Christ, because of the present continuous tense used in the verse "the great day of his wrath has come: and who is able to stand?" (Rev 6:17),in other words, by the time of abomination of desolation, Antichrist and all the kings of the earth will be enraged to know that God is working against them and it is not climate change lies as propagated by them in all the world, Antichrist will thus break the very covenant made by him 3 and half years before with the nations, to thus enter the third temple of that Great God in Jerusalem to speak Blasphemy against God and claim before the world that he as Antichrist is the in-charge and God of the whole earth (2 Thess 2:3-4). After that immediately, the Trumpets through the two prophets will start, the wrath of God and Christ will continue one by one. And within the last trumpet which is 7th, the bowls of wrath will continue to the end, after which the Armageddon of Christ's second coming will happen for the Glory of God. Maranatha! God bless you!
Q: Unfortunately for your view, it is in DIRECT conflict with what Christ and Paul actually taught…Paul declared that the rapture would not occur until AFTER the resurrection of the righteous dead-1 Thessalonians 4:13-17…Christ declared that the resurrection of the righteous (ALL that belongs to Him), would occur ON THE LAST DAY-John 6:39-40…Paul said those that belong to Christ will be raised AT HIS COMING.
Sorry, you are declaring that we CAN know the time of the rapture.
In addition, the church is NOT involved with the 7 years in any way, it is specifically for ISRAEL. So just by its very nature we MUST be absent.
A: We can know the seasons and times of the Rapture according to the Word of God (1Thess 5:1-6), but never the hour or exact time of Rapture which will happen at a point of time. God has revealed already through his prophets and new testament foundational apostles like Peter and Paul,...etc..that Rapture will happen after the abomination of desolation after the Antichrist will be revealed to the Church (Amos 3:7; Rev 1:1-3; Luke 11:49-50; 2 Peter 3:15-18). The second revelation of the Antichrist to the left behind and the world, will happen after the Rapture takes place (2 Thess 2:8). Nothing hidden that will not be revealed by Jesus, what we hear in the dark of our spirit should be proclaimed by the believers from the house tops in these end of end times!
Much Love and Blessings...
Rapture before Sealing of 666... but only after the abomination of desolation, do we need to see this as mid-tribulation or pre-tribulation?
People might ask, questions like, so the abomination of desolation isn’t that Mid-Trib?Are you referring to the rapture happening in the middle of the Tribulation?
Answer: Greetings to you in Jesus wonderful name!
To that my answer is, it isn't mid-trib because nowhere the Bible supports the Idea of a 7 year Tribulation, except those by tradition have called all of the Daniel 70th week as the time of Tribulation. In fact, the above is pre Tribulation after the abomination of desolation.
What many consider as the Pretrib should be called as pre-Daniel 70th week Rapture, because the time of peace and safety comes for the first three and half years of the peace covenant of Antichrist. This will be a intense time of deception that apostle Paul warned the Church about. Then someone might ask, will there not be birth Pangs Tribulation that will be happening at this time? Yes birth Pangs will be happening around the world at this time, but it was called by Jesus himself not as Tribulation, but only as the times of sorrows to happen as a precursor event to happen before the abomination of desolation takes place at the midpoint of Daniel 70th week. The only Tribulation that Jesus spoke about was the Great Tribulation which He predicted and foretold will happen after the abomination of desolation takes place. So it is better to trust in the Lord's word through Scripture, than to be deceived by traditions.
Only Rapture after abomination of desolation fits the Biblical narrative so perfectly that you don't have to import any of your thoughts in to it to make it work. All Scripture will work together and blend in to the Biblical narrative so naturally that we will finally come to experience the peace of God regarding the end times!
From which nation of the world the Antichrist will come from? In today's world map which is Assyrian stretch? Part of Iran, Iraq, Syria and part of Turkey. So an Assyrian is someone who will be able to control the whole middle east Moslem nations, that mainly combine these specific nations described above, that will be the Antichrist place of his origin. He will be from the above specified area with a worldwide influence during the end time. Specifically Antichrist will make European Union dance to its tune, which will be the last super power.
Because all of them will receive Antichrist as their Messiah. The wrath of God will come upon the whole world which will include Israel. When Jeremiah wrote to the nation of Israel He calls the Great Tribulation as Jacob's trouble. In these last days Jesus is speaking to the gentile Church, so he speaks the Great Tribulation as coming upon the whole world (Rev 3:10).
The following verses are the only ones that gets lined up in the Holy Bible Word Search for the phrase "wrath of God".
John 3:36: "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Romans 1:18: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
Ephesians 5:6: Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
Colossians 3:6: Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
Revelation 15:1: Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous: seven angels having the seven last plagues, for in them the wrath of God is complete.
Revelation 15:7: Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives forever and ever.
Revelation 16:1: Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, "Go and pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth.
Note: God's wrath is coming upon all the sons of disobedience and not upon believers, so from the time of Trumpets God starts to show his angry face to the world through the two prophets who will operate it for three and half years to torment the earth dwellers.
Truly the bowls are the wrath that completes God's wrath, but it will start with the Trumpets and that is why we see in Rev 15:1 "in them the wrath of God is complete." We need to ask ourselves the question, if the wrath of God gets completed through bowls judgment when did it start? It actually started with the "woe" wrath of the Trumpets which are operated by the two prophets in the second half of Daniel 70th week (Rev 8:13; 9:12; 11:14; 12:12).
The exact time of woe Jesus told how pregnant and nursing mothers will suffer on earth in an unprecedented way during the Great Tribulation time, this is the timeline of the near sealing of 666 of Antichrist will happen, after whom many will run after greedily for his money (i.e Digital Universal Basic Income) to sell their soul to Satan like Balaam and Judas and be condemned in hell fire (Matt 24:19; Mark 13:17; Luke 21:23; Jude 1:11; Matt 26:24).
As God Himself has given all things in to the hands of Jesus, He will be the one who will open up the wrath of God as the Book of Revelation reveals, in Revelation 6:16 where people of the world crying in their torment saying, "...to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!"". This shows that what the Bible calls as the "great day of His wrath has come" (Rev 6:17), will start only right after the abomination that leads to desolation of the whole world in the second three and half years of the Daniel 70th week. But the whole of the first three and half years of Daniel 70th week is when the seals are opened and the false time of peace will prevail in the whole world by the deceit of Antichrist. Praise the Lord!
Q: The seal judgments aren't peace and safety. The whole seven years is worst than anything on earth before?
A: The seal judgments are not the wrath of God, but rather "the beginning of the sorrows" of the end of the world (Matt 24:8), Revelation 6th chapter speaks about the same 3 and half years until the wrath of the Lamb starts through the mid-point immediately after the abomination of desolation, through the two prophet who will operate the Trumpets until the last seal will be opened. Only the Trumpets will be counted as the wrath of God starting time.
Q: Mid-trib has the least support of all. It's also been thoroughly shown to be wrong by many others, as you well know.
A: Who cares for support when in Noah's time only 8 people were saved out of the millions and millions who were drowned in the wrath of God through a worldwide flood. Jesus warned that it will be also like wise in our generation, (i.e). only those who have personal relationship with Him to obey His word will be saved out from the Great Tribulation, and all others will be deceived by false peace and safety to be left behind. By the way, in a recent survey in a big Rapture believing group, the results astonished me... because more than 45% of saints believed in Rapture taking place after abomination of desolation. Just to tell you of what happened...but regarding believing in the truth, it is of no great value except to know that we are not alone but many other saints believe the same too. God bless you
Q: Matthew 24:29–31 (ESV): The Coming of the Son of Man.
"29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matthew 24:29-31).
Rapture is AFTER the Great Tribulation. Not before.
Thanks.
A: That Scripture in Matthew 24:29-31, is when the Great Tribulation will end and the second coming of Jesus Christ will happen. That is when not only the nation of Israel will mourn but the whole world will be seeking for a deliverer and a Savior to come out of the devastation's caused both by Antichrist and God's wrath, so bad enough that if the hope of all nations who is Jesus Christ if he fails to come, humans could not survive on this planet earth which will become late great planet earth by that time because of radiation (Hag 2:7; Zec 12:9, 10-12). God bless you.
Q: The Whole Tribulation is God's Wrath.............. 7 Seals 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. Total 21 Wrath of God Judgement. Numbers have great meaning to God.... 21 in Hebrew means the exceedingly wickedness of sin. Also please read Rev 5. No one But Jesus can open the Seals........and EVERY seal says and when the Lamb opened the Seal......and then in the 6th Seal.....its So Terrifying that people cry out Hide us from the Wrath of the Lamb!
A: It is like this....the seals and horses of different colors will happen during the first three and half years time, it is not the wrath of the Lamb but rather the time of sorrows for the world (Matthew 24:8). How could we know for sure that it will not add up in the wrath of God or Christ, because of the present continuous tense used in the verse "the great day of his wrath has come: and who is able to stand?" (Rev 6:17),in other words, by the time of abomination of desolation, Antichrist and all the kings of the earth will be enraged to know that God is working against them and it is not climate change lies as propagated by them in all the world, Antichrist will thus break the very covenant made by him 3 and half years before with the nations, to thus enter the third temple of that Great God in Jerusalem to speak Blasphemy against God and claim before the world that he as Antichrist is the in-charge and God of the whole earth (2 Thess 2:3-4). After that immediately, the Trumpets through the two prophets will start, the wrath of God and Christ will continue one by one. And within the last trumpet which is 7th, the bowls of wrath will continue to the end, after which the Armageddon of Christ's second coming will happen for the Glory of God. Maranatha! God bless you!
Q: Unfortunately for your view, it is in DIRECT conflict with what Christ and Paul actually taught…Paul declared that the rapture would not occur until AFTER the resurrection of the righteous dead-1 Thessalonians 4:13-17…Christ declared that the resurrection of the righteous (ALL that belongs to Him), would occur ON THE LAST DAY-John 6:39-40…Paul said those that belong to Christ will be raised AT HIS COMING.
Sorry, you are declaring that we CAN know the time of the rapture.
In addition, the church is NOT involved with the 7 years in any way, it is specifically for ISRAEL. So just by its very nature we MUST be absent.
A: We can know the seasons and times of the Rapture according to the Word of God (1Thess 5:1-6), but never the hour or exact time of Rapture which will happen at a point of time. God has revealed already through his prophets and new testament foundational apostles like Peter and Paul,...etc..that Rapture will happen after the abomination of desolation after the Antichrist will be revealed to the Church (Amos 3:7; Rev 1:1-3; Luke 11:49-50; 2 Peter 3:15-18). The second revelation of the Antichrist to the left behind and the world, will happen after the Rapture takes place (2 Thess 2:8). Nothing hidden that will not be revealed by Jesus, what we hear in the dark of our spirit should be proclaimed by the believers from the house tops in these end of end times!
Much Love and Blessings...
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