Question: I'm hearing a lot these days from the pre-wrath rapture camp that the Tribulation period is only 3.5 years, instead of the traditional view of being 7 years long. They say that the Bible does not support a 7 year tribulation, but instead a 3.5 year tribulation. I do not know that the Bible describes the last 3.5 years of the tribulation period as a time of "Great Tribulation", but it was my understanding that the seal judgments are also part of God's wrath, judgment, etc. And they clearly occur at the beginning of the tribulation period. Do you support the tribulation period being 7 years long? Or if you don't, could you please address the Issue? In short, Is the 3.5 years of the second half of the Daniel's 70th week the one and only tribulation which is why it is called the "Great Tribulation"?
Answer: Greetings to you in Jesus wonderful name!
The 7 years should never be Unbiblically called as Tribulation, as it was by the tradition of the western theologians who proposed such a 7 years tribulation firstly, but as Daniel's 70th week were only for the nation of Israel, the 69 weeks within the 70 were something that God fulfilled already to the nation of Israel through Messiah Jesus Christ's first coming, so the continued final 7 further speaks to this nation of Israel to which He has chosen to reveal Himself physically, and through this nation he will reveal Himself to the world through His second coming to the earth. Glory!
The Bible clearly says that Jesus came to his own people (the Jews), and His own did not receive Him (John 1:11).
How can we know that the Tribulation which is called with a prefix "Great" as an adjective, to mean that it will be a unprecedented tribulation like never before seen by any humans, and also never after will ever be seen in this kind of intensity (Matt 24:21). Unless this time is shortened, which means not in its time-length but rather in its intensity of the wrath of God, no humans would be saved out of it. It is like a nuclear Armageddon upon the whole wide world, which will totally make humans annihilated upon the earth in MAD mode - which means MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION mode (Matt 24:22). But for the sake of having a godly remnant and to keep some saints alive on earth to reproduce humans physically during the Millennial Kingdom, God will shorten those days for the elect sake (Matt 24:22).
Here is the detailed analysis of the Daniel 70th Week:
The length of the Tribulation is only 3 1/2 years, and that is why the one and only tribulation that is called "Great Tribulation" is 3.5 years only. It is given eight times in the Scripture:
1. Daniel 7.25 - "a time and times and the dividing of time."
2. Daniel 12:7 - "a time, times, and a half."
3. Daniel 12:11 - "a thousand two hundred and ninety days" (plus 30 days).
4. Dan 12:12 - "one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days." (Dan 12:12). (plus 30 and plus 45 days).
5. Rev 11:2 - "forty and two months."
6. Rev 11:3 - "a thousand two hundred and threescore days."
7. Rev 12:6 - "a thousand two hundred and threescore days." [Daniel's 70th week, the one and only first half intended in the Scripture.]
8. Rev 12:14 - "a time, and times, and half a time."
9. Rev 13.5 - "forty and two months."
Believe me, except Rev 12:6, not even one time it speaks about the first half of the Daniel 70th week. Only in Rev 12:5-6 we find the following different meaning, "5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days."
Jesus was the male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of Iron and the woman who was the family of faith saints, bore Jesus through Mary literally one of its member (Luke 1:35). When Christ who is the Messiah came to take his place in the wilderness through fasting and prayer, He began to demonstrate to the nation of Israel that he was the One to be believed and received as Moses and prophets foretold (Luke 24:44-49; John 14:11; Deut 18:15-22; John 1:41, 45), when they rejected him and killed him instead of accepting Him as the true Messiah (Matt 23:37-39; 27:25), from that point of time, the Kingdom of God was taken from the nation of Israel and given to a nation [of all nations, which is the Church] who were called to bearing the fruits of it (Matt 21:43). So when Jesus the child of the woman who is the family of faith was caught up to God and His throne to be seated with Him at His right hand (Eph 1:20-23), immediately as foretold by Jesus (Luke 5:35; Mark 2:20; Matt 9:15), the woman who is the bride of Christ now, fled in to the wilderness longing for Christ and therefore the Presence of His anointing covered them exactly until the time of Rapture will come and take them to the Father's house (John 4:1-4; Eph 1:13-14). In other words, exactly the anointing with which Christ stood on earth and overcame Sin, Satan and Self for "a thousand two hundred and sixty days" which is the first half of the Daniel's 70th week, that same anointing of the first three and half years of ministry of Jesus Christ will work through the Church through fasting and prayer, through which in this wilderness of the world, they will do spiritual warfare just like Jesus and at the end of it, they will overcome Sin, Self and Satan as a glorious Church through Rapture (Eph 6:25-27; Rev 12:7-12).
Here is the fine difference for the woman, first time "the women fled" in to the wilderness prepared by God through fasting and prayer and spiritual warfare, so that angels could feed the word of God in to them to sustain them supernaturally until Rapture (Matt 4:4, 11). But once the abomination of desolation happens, immediately Satan and his demonic cohorts will be thrown down from the second heaven, and to that place "the woman was given wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place [of authority over the world (Psa 8:5; Heb 2:5-9)], where she is nourished with the Word of God for "three and half years time" (Rev 12:14). The Church, which is the woman of the family of faith being fully loaded with the power of the Word of God for a "time, and times, and half a time", they will rule the earth for a thousand years time along with Jesus for the Glory of God! The woman's, rest of her offspring who are the Tribulation saints, who are those who will stand in faith against Antichrist until the Second Coming of Jesus to the earth "keeping the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev 12:13-17), will be martyred by the Antichrist, but will rise up physically in the first resurrection, in their natural body, and will reign and be priests with Jesus from this Jerusalem of the old earth (Rev 7:9-17; 20:6). GLORY!
So the bottom line is, except Rev 12:6 which is the first half of the Daniel 70th week, all else points to the second half of the Daniel's 70th week. Praise the Lord!
A FALSE PEACE LIKE NO OTHER, TRULY A DELUSION FORETOLD!
The one and only verse that speaks about a 7 year peace covenant in the whole of the Bible is, "Then he [the Antichrist] shall confirm a covenant [of Peace] with many [nations] for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate.” (Dan 9:27).
The above verse clearly reveals about the Antichrist making a worldwide covenant of Peace with many nations for 7 years time, the content of which includes mainly the peace between Israel and all Arab nations. The rights of Palestinian refugees will be the main solution, in which Israel will agree to the demands of the world to allow them to have some rights and some land, which is a covenant with death, means decisions taken outside of the will of God regarding His land which He has given to the nation of Israel (Isa 28:15, 18; Joel 3:2). Thus a Palestinian nation will be created, within the nation of Israel, which will bring false peace of a great delusion for the entire world to be deceived by it (2 Thess 2:2-12).
The above verse of false peace can be explained only through the verse of Paul the apostle who told to the Church, "2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief." (1 Thess 5:2-4). This is a exact prophecy that links itself with Dan 9:27, and guarantees that the first three and half years will be those operated by Antichrist through deceitful means to take control of the whole world, through cunning deceit to prosper under his rule, he shall destroy many in their prosperity (Dan 8:25). We know that the first 3 1/2 years of the Daniel 70th week will be false peace in which Antichrist will try his best to control the world without fighting with them. This is what is explained in Revelation 6th Chapter verse 1, the Antichrist who sat on a white horse, had a "bow", but no arrow with him. How is it possible? In the modern term, this is like saying, we have a nuclear Hypersonic Laucher with multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRV), so make sure you all comply with what we say to you! The last seventy years since all these technology has been pioneered by USA and RUSSIA, the peace that we have seen right throughout the time is a false peace through keeping all the others in fear. This is the method of Antichrist in these last days to control the world.
Some people naively think, that because the covenant of peace once made, before the ink could be dried on paper, Antichrist will start a war to kill as many as one fourth of the world population (Rev 6:8), this is not right because Jesus explained what the deception of the last days will be like (Matt 24:4).
Through deceit, "wars and rumours of wars" are not the end as prophesied and foretold by Jesus. As through world war 1, world war 2 and now in the present time world war 3 and all the wars that have ever happened in the last century until today have been narratives set by the Antichrist powers who have initiated these thing to set a world that will act according to its own whims and fancies (Matt 24:6-7). These are actually false flag events, meaning, it is an act that disguises the source of responsibility and blames someone else, and also after everything happens, will be projected as black swan event which is unforeseen and consequential event. Though many might die, the nature of wars are deceitful ones done to take control of the whole world through fear and projecting superior strength that is unmatched around the world. Many Antichrist for the whole of the last century have come saying 'I am Christ', meaning, I can control the world and will narrate it as I want, these have deceived many to keep them away from the message of salvation which could have otherwise saved their soul from sin to receive eternal life!
But then Jesus speaks about the "beginning of sorrows", the same word which reveals from the Greek root word the meaning of a pattern of increased human destruction activities upon the earth which will be like a birth pangs of a woman in birth mode, likewise, the way in which Antichrist will control famines [by manipulating weather patterns], pestilences [by producing Bio-weapons] and earth quakes [through injection-induced human interfered quakes], will be the signs to the people living on earth which will keep on increasing until "Great Tribulation" begins in which Antichrist will boast of a new world in control at his hands through 666 mark of the beast (Rev 13:5-6, 16-18), that which Jesus expounded and foretold as the deceptive gateway of "Climate Change Lie" through which the world will enter in to the "Great Tribulation" (Mat 24:20-22). The same thing has been revealed by Jesus exactly in the same sequence to John the Revelator (Rev 6:1-11), so that we can differentiate the human caused control through fear that causes Great Tribulation from the "Wrath of God" (1 Thess 5:9-11), which God will cause through torment to call people to repentance and thus receive eternal life forevermore (Rev 11:2-3).
WHAT WILL BE THE WRATH OF GOD THEN WITHIN GREAT TRIBULATION?
The question to ponder over is, Is the Great Tribulation the only one according to the Bible? Or the Seals of Rev 6 also get included in the Tribulation as people say?
We know obviously that the Book of Revelation 6th chapter seals and Matthew 24th chapter "beginning of sorrows" runs parallelly to one another, in other words, Jesus explains in details through John the Revelator to the Church of what He has already spoken to the Church through the apostle Matthew when He did His ministry on earth.
What is the "beginning of sorrows"? Beginning of sorrows are nothing but a foretaste of the deception of Antichrist who will increasingly like birth pangs control the world and its inhabitants through famines, pestilences, and earth quakes in various places, which in other words are the sign of Great Tribulation that is coming upon the world (Matt 24:7-8; Rev 6:1-11). The real sorrow will start when the left behind believers are delivered in to tribulation in which they will kill them and will be hated by all nations for Jesus' name sake (Matt 24:9, 10-14). This will be after the half way time of Daniel 70th week, after the abomination of desolation (Matt 24:15-16). But anytime after this half way point, as Jesus foretold, the Rapture of the Church will happen, after which the 666 mark of the beast, will be implemented in all the world.
So from the first seal to the fifth seal that is broken, we see the increasing control of Antichrist happen in the false peace period of the first half of the Daniel 70th week (Rev 6:1-11)! Suddenly after all these times of the deceitful control of Antichrist through which, pestilences like Corona as Bio-weapons were used with its after effects of famines due to induced earthquake and climate change lies, which in its peak causes one fouth of the whole world to die through the sword of the virus bio-weapon, which in turn causes more hunger and more death, by the beasts of the earth, which are two world governments of USA (Leader of NATO the REVIVED ROME) and ISRAEL (Rev 6:7-8), to control the entire world, then the end which is the abomination of desolation spoken in the Daniel 70 weeks will kick off the wrath of God.
It is the red of Communistic godless China (Magog) and Russia (Gog) that were used as a false flag by the spirit of Antichrist to "take peace from the earth" (Rev 3:3-4). In the case of China, it was the Corona virus that took peace out of the world and in the case of Russia, it was the Ukraine war that took out peace from the world. But both were a false flag event, as it was USA that imposed these things upon these nations, as they were planned decades earlier, and even more than centuries earlier for it to happen.
So once the narrative is set firmly upon the world by Antichrist, at the time of sixth seal it will be beyond the half way of Daniel 70th week in which, the Great Tribulation will start from Jerusalem and spread to the whole wide world in the sealing of the mark of the beast 666 (Rev 6:12-17). For the first time, all the signs in heavens and on earth will make the "15 the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man,.." to "hid[e] themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 [to say]...to the mountains and rocks [i.e. bunkers], “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” (Rev 6:15-17). In other words, Rapture is a sign-less event that will snatch the worldwide Church to be snatched away from the earth to escape the Great Tribulation that is coming upon the earth for its sin and violence and godless life of human beings living on it (Matt 24:27, 21-26, 28; 36-44). But once it happens, the signs in the heavens and earth will make the unsaved Antichrist's and cohort workers to flee in to hiding for the bunkers which they have already made and prepared for themselves (Acts 2:19-21). Here is the first time, Antichrist and his cohorts will be realizing after the sealing of the mark of the beast which is 666 upon the whole wide world, that suddenly "the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?".
In other words, the wrath of God will start with the Trumpet, and seals are the wrath of Satan and his demonic son Antichrist's taking control of the whole world, and this is done by the sovereign display of Jesus opening the seals to show that the world government is already operating upon His shoulders from heaven (Isa 9:7; Rev 1:6-8; 6:1-17; 8:1). The wrath of God is the Trumpets (Rev 15:1; 11:7, 10, 18), and within the 7th Trumpet, the 7 Bowls will take place and finish with Armageddon war which are the one and only Great Tribulation (Rev 8:13; 9:12; 11:14, 15; 8:7; 10:7; 16:1-21), Truly the torment of the wrath of God will unite whatever nations that are present in the world without faith, to unite and come against the Lord and His Christ which will happen at the time of Armageddon while the Daniel 70th week will come to an end (Acts 4:25-26; Rev 11:1-19). GLORY!
Without doubt, the wrath of God will start with the Trumpets of God and continue through the Bowls in to the war of Armageddon, which are nothing but a heavenly announcement and warning through the two prophets and angels working together fulfilling the Word of God and prophecy (Rev 11:1-19), in order to alert the earth of a inevitable war that is soon coming between the godless Antichrist and his team of the entire world (Num 10:9), with Christ and His heavenly army of the Church, at the time of Armageddon the last and final war after which Jesus Christ and the Church will rule this present earth from the New Heaven and New Earth for a thousand years time (Rev 19:11-21; 21:1-8). So the realization of God's wrath comes after the Abomination of Desolation which is the half way point of the Daniel 70th week and ends only when the war between Christ and Antichrist will be over and done in the valley of Jehoshaphat in the mountains of Jerusalem (Ezek 38:18-23; 39:1-20; Joel 23:2, 12; Zec 14:1-5; Amos 1:1; Rev 16:18-21). The Great Tribulation will be the greatest harvest of souls the world has ever seen (Joel 3:14). GLORY!
ARMAGEDDON, MUST be understood in the “HEBREW tongue.”
The word ‘Armageddon’ is made up of three Hebrew words presented below in an anglicised form:
Arema – a heap of sheaves
Gai – valley
Dan – judgement.
When all these elements are combined, the word is found to mean:
‘A heap of sheaves in a valley for judgement,’
As in Joel and Ezekiel, Zechariah locates the place of a great battle. “I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle” (verse 2) and “the Lord shall go forth and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.”(verse 3) It was in the days of Jehoshaphat that the Lord fought against Israel’s enemies and the nation of Israel had victory without having to fight the battle themselves. (2 Chronicles 20) Zechariah (verse 4) gives details of a massive earthquake that will shake the earth at this time.
Is the Valley Of Jehoshaphat a physical place in today's world? It is the area within the nation of Israel, but no such physical place as the Valley of Jehoshaphat is seen in it. This seems to be an anomaly, but it appears to have an important connection with Armageddon considering the strong connection between the references in Revelation and Joel to “a heap of sheaves in a valley for judgement,” and “a valley of threshing.” Both references are to a battle of the Lord like no other recorded in the Bible.
Thus according to the Bible, the Middle East will be the focal point of the battle of Armageddon in the southern part of Israel, in the Valley of Jehoshaphat (Berachah), around the mountains of present day Jerusalem in the nation of Israel.
In other words, when the confederacy of the nations of the world come against the nation of Israel at the final war of Armageddon, the Lord and His heavenly army of the Church will burn the earthly army of all the nations like a heap of sheaves supernaturally, in the valley of Judgment set by God for the whole world living in sin with Antichrist.
The apostle Paul gives a warning in 2 Thessalonians 1: 8, “The Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Amen!
Armageddon (Rev 16:16) and Joel 3 appear to have a close association, which is worthwhile considering. Bible students have often puzzled over the significance of the statement in Isaiah 63:1-4. “Who is this that comes from (the direction of) Edom with dyed garments from Bozrah?...I will trample them in mine anger…blood shall be sprinkled on my garments…for the day of vengeance is in my heart.”
The above verse shows that it is not just the connection within Scripture that proves that the Messiah Jesus Christ himself will fight for the nation of Israel and will defeat God's enemies, but also will from thereon will rule the world with a rod of Iron in true peace for the Glory of God for a thousand years time (Rev 19:15-16). Hallelujah!
Thus the Zenith of the wrath of God will end only in the battle of Armageddon! In short, the second half of the Daniel 70th week will be the one and only Great Tribulation in which Antichrist's world rulership agenda and God's echo of His coming Kingdom to rule the world will collide and end in Armageddon war, and thereafter a new world of Jesus Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords will start and continue for a thousand years time along with the Church from the New Heaven and New Earth from the Heavenly Jerusalem, and the physically resurrected martyred Great Tribulation saints who will rule from the earthly Jerusalem in this old heaven and old earth co-ordinating with the heavenly one. GLORY TO GOD!
Much Blessings...
SO WHAT IS THE WRATH OF GOD, AND WHERE DOES IT START AND END?
Without doubt, the wrath of God will start with the Trumpets of God and continue through the Bowls in to the war of Armageddon, which are nothing but a heavenly announcement and warning through the two prophets and angels working together fulfilling the Word of God and prophecy (Rev 11:1-19), in order to alert the earth of a inevitable war that is soon coming between the godless Antichrist and his team of the entire world (Num 10:9), with Christ and His heavenly army of the Church, at the time of Armageddon the last and final war after which Jesus Christ and the Church will rule this present earth from the New Heaven and New Earth for a thousand years time (Rev 19:11-21; 21:1-8). So the realization of God's wrath comes after the Abomination of Desolation which is the half way point of the Daniel 70th week and ends only when the war between Christ and Antichrist will be over and done in the valley of Jehoshaphat in the mountains of Jerusalem (Ezek 38:18-23; 39:1-20; Joel 23:2, 12; Zec 14:1-5; Amos 1:1; Rev 16:18-21). The Great Tribulation will be the greatest harvest of souls the world has ever seen (Joel 3:14). GLORY!
ARMAGEDDON, MUST be understood in the “HEBREW tongue.”
The word ‘Armageddon’ is made up of three Hebrew words presented below in an anglicised form:
Arema – a heap of sheaves
Gai – valley
Dan – judgement.
When all these elements are combined, the word is found to mean:
‘A heap of sheaves in a valley for judgement,’
As in Joel and Ezekiel, Zechariah locates the place of a great battle. “I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle” (verse 2) and “the Lord shall go forth and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.”(verse 3) It was in the days of Jehoshaphat that the Lord fought against Israel’s enemies and the nation of Israel had victory without having to fight the battle themselves. (2 Chronicles 20) Zechariah (verse 4) gives details of a massive earthquake that will shake the earth at this time.
Is the Valley Of Jehoshaphat a physical place in today's world? It is the area within the nation of Israel, but no such physical place as the Valley of Jehoshaphat is seen in it. This seems to be an anomaly, but it appears to have an important connection with Armageddon considering the strong connection between the references in Revelation and Joel to “a heap of sheaves in a valley for judgement,” and “a valley of threshing.” Both references are to a battle of the Lord like no other recorded in the Bible.
Thus according to the Bible, the Middle East will be the focal point of the battle of Armageddon in the southern part of Israel, in the Valley of Jehoshaphat (Berachah), around the mountains of present day Jerusalem in the nation of Israel.
In other words, when the confederacy of the nations of the world come against the nation of Israel at the final war of Armageddon, the Lord and His heavenly army of the Church will burn the earthly army of all the nations like a heap of sheaves supernaturally, in the valley of Judgment set by God for the whole world living in sin with Antichrist.
The apostle Paul gives a warning in 2 Thessalonians 1: 8, “The Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Amen!
Armageddon (Rev 16:16) and Joel 3 appear to have a close association, which is worthwhile considering. Bible students have often puzzled over the significance of the statement in Isaiah 63:1-4. “Who is this that comes from (the direction of) Edom with dyed garments from Bozrah?...I will trample them in mine anger…blood shall be sprinkled on my garments…for the day of vengeance is in my heart.”
The above verse shows that it is not just the connection within Scripture that proves that the Messiah Jesus Christ himself will fight for the nation of Israel and will defeat God's enemies, but also will from thereon will rule the world with a rod of Iron in true peace for the Glory of God for a thousand years time (Rev 19:15-16). Hallelujah!
Thus the Zenith of the wrath of God will end only in the battle of Armageddon! In short, the second half of the Daniel 70th week will be the one and only Great Tribulation in which Antichrist's world rulership agenda and God's echo of His coming Kingdom to rule the world will collide and end in Armageddon war, and thereafter a new world of Jesus Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords will start and continue for a thousand years time along with the Church from the New Heaven and New Earth from the Heavenly Jerusalem, and the physically resurrected martyred Great Tribulation saints who will rule from the earthly Jerusalem in this old heaven and old earth co-ordinating with the heavenly one. GLORY TO GOD!
Much Blessings...
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