Question: Is both Women in prophecy of Revelation 12th Chapter are Israel? The true Messianic promise for one, and the false Messianic occurrence from the other?
So....who is the woman ?
Besides, a blindness was appointed onto Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles....Luke 19:42...... but will be taken away as soon as they acknowledge the mistake...2 Corinthians 3:14-16....Hosea 5:15.
You mentioned the woman.....then you mentioned her offspring....(which were grafted into the Messianic promise) .....How are the offspring also the woman?, when the woman was the source of the Messianic fulfillment?
Answer: Greetings to you in the mighty and most powerful name of Jesus my LORD and Savior who is Christ!
Until the woman of the nation of Israel comes to God at his Second Coming in which they will accept Jesus as the Messiah, the Church remains as the woman.
Here are the contextual Scriptures, "15: So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood.
16: But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
17: And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Rev 12:15-17, NKJV).
In the above verse Rev 12:15 you can see how Satan wanted to keep the Church on earth itself to face the Tribulation against the will of God through the flood of filth, deceit and lies that comes out of his mouth like a flood (Isa 59:19), but resurrection of the saints through the event of Rapture opened up the earth's mouth literally and took the Church out to meet the Lord in the air as God promised (1 Thess 4:14-18). Satan being furious, goes after the left behind saints who are the offspring that the Church left on the earth through trying to seal the 666 mark of the beast upon them (Rev 13:5-10, 11-18), but because of special faith given to them by God...they will even choose to become Martyrs than to give up their faith (Rev 7:9-17). Hallelujah!
Because the offspring was part of the physical Churches, but were never Saved to watch and pray (Luke 21:36; Rev 3:10; 2 Thess 2:3), so they were left behind (Luke 17:34, 35, 36). When their eyes get opened to see the truth of Rapture fulfilled and why they were left behind (Isa 45:22; Rev 14:1-5, 6-7, 8, 9, 10-11, 12), immediately they will look to God in a moment to call on His name and be saved (Rom 10:13, 14-21). Their works will follow them to the first resurrection, in which they will be raised up in a physical body to reign and be priests of God from Jerusalem for a thousand years time (Rev 7:9-17; 20:4-6). Thus this class of Tribulation saints and all the martyrs of all times, will rise up in their physical body to be the priest of God and reign with Jesus and the Church for a thousand years time on this earth. Hallelujah!
God who has sealed 144000 Jews from the 12 tribes of Israel to be preserved through the Tribulation (Rev 7:1-8), Jesus and the Church will then come to save Israel from annihilation from the Assyrian Antichrist's world Army (Rev 19:11-16, 17-21; Isa 14:24-25; Mic 5:5-6), will in a day will save them spiritually and will stay with them for a thousand years time to make them a great blessing to the whole wide world as He had promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Isa 27:6; Zec 8:23; Rom 11:25-27, 28). This is where Israel who was divorced from God, will be remarried to Him forever (Isa 54:5; Jer 3:1, 14; 31:31, 32; 3:8-10; 2 Kings 7:5-7; Deut 24:14). God will have mercy on the nation of Israel to forgive all their transgressions and will enroll them in to the New Covenant (Jer 3:12, 14, 13; Rom 11:1-6, 11, 23). God will again woo Israel to make it to be a blessing to nation as His woman on earth (Hos 1:2; 3:1; Jam 2:13; Luke 18:27). Hallelujah!
When the seed of the Word of God remains in anyone quickened by the Presence of God, she as the people of God on earth becomes the Woman of Revelation 12th Chapter.
Is both Women in prophecy of Revelation 12th Chapter are Israel? No, once the Church came in to existence by God taking the Kingdom Presence from the nation of Israel when they rejected him, and have given it to the Church which has become the house of God to be the official truth pro-claimer to the world (1 Tim 3:15), the woman who was Israel in the Old Testament, now the Church has become that woman, as therefore concerning the gospel the nation of Israel in blindness have become enemies of God, for the Church sake (Rom 11:28). It is God's foreknowledge that made the Church to become highly favored in the sight of God. Hallelujah!
To the Church it is the true Messianic promise which got fulfilled completely, but to the nation of Israel, the first coming of Jesus Christ has become the false Messianic occurrence, because they were not seeking spiritual things from God, but only they were looking for a earthly Kingdom of God the Messiah to establish them as a leading super power nation to rule the world (Matt 23:34-36, 37-39; Luke 17:20, 21-22; Matt 21:43)!
The offspring of the Church is the left behind saints. Why only the Tribulation Left Behind saints were called the offspring? Because the nation of Israel was the Woman, the Church was the Woman, because the Church was taken by Rapture to be in heaven at that time, and the nation of Israel is on earth as a woman at that time, the Tribulation saints will be kept as the offspring of the heavenly woman officially continuing on earth as a special category of the people who will live physically for a thousand years time on earth with the woman. Church once taken up in to the New Jerusalem, where marriage of the Lamb and the reception that follows it will takes place there (Rev 19:7, 9), then the Church will be resettled in the New Heaven and New Earth (Rev 21:1-8). Because the woman is still present in heaven, the wilderness of watching and praying will continue along with Jesus Christ till they all together return to the earth to establish the Kingdom of God on earth for a thousand years time (Rom 8:34; Rev 12:14; Matt 4:1, 4). So only the offspring of the Church who will be called Tribulation Saints, mostly these will be martyred, but only a remnant of them will be present on earth when Jesus comes (Rev 7:9-17; Luke 18:7-8; Matt 24:31), till the nation of Israel as a woman will again get reestablished officially by Jesus Christ (Zec 14:3, 5, 9). The fullness of the Gentiles will come in till the Second Coming Of Jesus, up to which the Gentile will rule the world as they are doing now from Jerusalem (Luke 21:24; Rom 11:25-26).
Is the offspring also the woman? No. The offspring of the woman cannot be the woman, that is why the left behind saints are called as Tribulations saints for identificational purpose and not as woman. But the same woman now in labor pain through the Great Tribulation to be reestablished as the nation of Israel at the Second Coming of Jesus and the Church, was the source of the Messianic fulfillment of His first coming before, through which they were a blessing to the whole world of the Church and all nations, when Jesus came through Mary to save his people from their sins (Matt 1:21). Again the nation of Israel will be a blessing to the whole world as a woman of God's extended arm to reach the whole world in need (Isa 27:6; Zec 8:23). Hallelujah! GLORY TO GOD!
Much Blessings....
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