Do You Believe That Israel's National Conversion Occurs At The Moment Of The Lord's Return Or Before It During The Tribulation?
Question : Do you believe that Israel's national conversion occurs at the moment of the Lord's return? What about the Scripture that says, "all Israel will be saved" (Rom 11:26) in a day when Jesus the Messiah will come to deliver the nation of Israel from annihilation and extinction forever?
Answer : Greetings in Jesus wonderful name! First of all we must take that verse from Rom 11:26 in context and see what it really says. Here it is, "25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.”" (Rom 11:25-27). We see in the above verse the mystery of God is being revealed by Paul who has said, that blindness to Israel as a nation towards Jesus as the Messiah will continue until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in to the Church, and once the Church is raptured before the Tribulation begins, then God will turn towards the nation of Israel to turn them away from ungodliness of unbelief towards the Messiah, through allowing them to go through the Tribulation and thus will purge their sins away to make them realize that they have rejected Jesus their Messiah in His first coming and will begin to make them say and welcome with their mourning and prayer to Yeshua their Messiah saying, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord," then will Jesus appear on earth to them to rescue them during the time of the Battle of Armageddon from the Antichrist (Matt 23:39; Zech 14:2-4; Rev 19:19-21). The time of Jacob's trouble which is the Great Tribulation is given mainly to the nation of Israel to correct them from unbelief and to make them seek God so that He will be able to save the nation of Israel out of it (Jer 30:7, 11; Hos 5:15). Clearly God expects the nation of Israel to confess her national sin and plead for Messiah to return, to mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son. So when Paul says "all Israel will be saved" when the Deliverer will come out of Zion, he does not say that on the day they see Jesus they will be saved, but rather he emphasizes that all the repentant of the nation of Israel that is mourning, praying and expecting the Messiah already by having received the salvation of God by faith through the outpouring of God's Spirit will receive the actual salvation of physical deliverance of the remnant nation from the iron clutches of the Antichrist and the insidious plan of Antichrist to destroy them completely (Zech 12:10-11; 13:8-9). God will purge the Jewish "rebels" who are non-elect during the Tribulation period (Zechariah 13:9; Ezek. 20:38). Two third of the entire nation of Israel will die through the Great Tribulation and only one third of them will be taken through the fire of God which will refine them as sliver is refined and as gold is tested, these are the ones who will be saved through the Tribulation spiritually and will mourn and supplicate by Spirit's grace to God to send the Messiah Jesus to come and rescue them from extinction and annihilation of the Antichrist. The purging process will result in removal of the rebel, leaving the believing remnant who will then be brought "into the bond of the covenant" (Ezek. 20:37). Ezekiel foresaw the time of Tribulation, and told that the Lord is going to "gather you [Israel] and blow on you with the fire of My wrath [i.e The Tribulation], and you will be melted in the midst of it" (Ezek. 22:21). Thus tribulation will be used by God to purge the rebels who do not believe the Messiah Jesus Christ, and establish the elect through pouring out His Spirit on them. This shows to us that physical salvation of the nation will succeed the spiritual salvation of the nation of Israel through the Great Tribulation and not the other way around. The time this is predicted to occur is "in the latter days" (Jer. 30:24) or "the end time" (Dan. 12:9).
So the false notion that when Israel mourns, it will be the mourning of repentance by Jews when they see the returning Messiah, which is thought of as Israel's national conversion, cannot be entertained as the truth anymore as we have seen it above clearly. No human needs faith to see and believe (2 Cor 5:7), but rather when one does not see yet believe that is considered worthy by God to give His salvation to those who believe and receive it by grace through faith (Eph 2:8-9). When Isaiah the prophet speaks of the nation of Israel being born "in one day" (Isa 66:8), it was not the birth of nation at the second coming of Jesus Christ as it will be already there in existence, but it rather speaks about the birth of the nation of Israel on May 14, 1948, when all the Jews of all the 12 tribes being in exile for nearly two millennium without a homeland or any individual identity suddenly returned back, and in a single day those who were staying in their own land as refugees without rights suddenly became a nation in to existence in the world map miraculously amid all the enemies surrounding it, through United Nations agreement with them and certain other powerful nations standing beside it by the grace of God.
We see during Jesus' Second Coming, not only the nation of Israel mourning, but it is said in the Bible that all the earth will mourn (Matt 24:30). We know that the unbeliever will mourn seeing Jesus that will make them realize judgment and punishment for their grave sins are inevitable, thus abandoning all hope of Satan's ultimate triumph through Antichrist and False Prophet. Here is what Bible describes about the whole earth mourning, “Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him [i.e. nation of Israel], and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him” (Revelation 1:7 ESV). In other words the whole earth will mourn and wail because they will realize judgment has finally come upon them and that they are not ready for God's judgment. The day is coming when the whole world will see Jesus as he really is, (i.e.) as the Lion of the tribe of Judah and as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Second Coming of Christ will be “with power and great glory.” The pride and mockery of men and demonic world will cease to exist after His Second Coming because Jesus the Messiah will rule the world with a rod of Iron. When that happens, every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:9-11).
The Jews will be looking on him whom they have pierced. To their utter astonishment they will discover that the One who appears in power and great glory bears in his hands the marks of nails and in his side the wound of a spear (Zech 12:10-14). Of course, all the world is guilty of piercing the Son of God (Heb 10:29; 6:4-5, 6), but the Jews were particular instruments in that respect (Acts 2:36; Rev 1:7). As Israel will mourn knowing their unworthiness in receiving Jesus Christ for His love, mercy and grace which He had already shown towards them through pouring out His Spirit during the Great Tribulation and saving them even before the time of His Second Coming even though they have all rejected and killed Him at His first coming to their nation (Zech 12:10, 11; 13:1). Even apostle Peter agrees with this truth in Acts 3:17-26 and says, that the return of Christ to bring about the "times of refreshing" is contingent upon their conversion. Also James the apostle also agrees with this truth to say that, God has first visited the Gentiles to take a people for His name [i.e. the Church from all nations and tongues], and once the Church is raptured before Great Tribulation starts, then He will return to the nation of Israel to rebuild the tabernacle of David, rebuild its ruins, to set up His Glory in its midst so that the rest of the mankind who are the Gentiles may seek the Lord and might again be called by the name of God (Acts 15:14-15, 16-17). So Israel as a nation will repent before Christ returns to the earth to rule the world from it.
We know that even though God's people in Egypt were oppressed for a long time, God was seeing it all, but only when they cried or groaned to God about it, God heard their cry because of the taskmasters who oppressed them. Then God told that he understood their sorrows or pain, therefore God came to meet Moses through the burning bush, and sent Moses as His representative to free them and liberate them from oppression to make them do His will and continue to serve and worship Him (Exod 3:7-10). I believe the same will happen through the Tribulation of the end, when the people of God in Israel will be killed by Antichrist through the hard taskmasters and oppressed greatly, their groaning, weeping and crying will reach the throne of God, and therefore God will send Yeshua the Messiah to go and deliver them from the evil plan of Antichrist who will be hell bent on destroying and annihilating them completely.
We see the Bowls of the Wrath of God being poured upon the earth before the Great Tribulation ends, and it was specifically poured upon the kingdom of Antichrist, God was actually expecting the people who followed Satan to repent and turn from their evil ways even through the Tribulation of those days, but when they will harden their heart and instead will start to blaspheme the God of heaven who rules the earth by siding up with Satan, Antichrist and False Prophet, immediately God will seriously deal in judgment through the wrath of God's destruction upon man’s sinful Satan inspired kingdoms of this world (Rev 16:1-21). The event of the appearance of Christ at His Second Coming will be preceded by the appearance of "the sign of the Son of man" in the heavens. We know that some people who will repent of their sins will mourn for the Messiah, but still others will mourn grudgingly seeing the sign of Jesus Second Coming on the sky and therefore will mourn against the judgment that is going to come and will run for a cover or in to hiding (Amos 8:8; Mark 5:7; 2 Cor 7:9-10; Rev 6:12-14, 15-16, 17). Those who mourn to hasten the coming of the Messiah will be blessed and comforted (Matt 5:4; Jam 4:9-10; Isa 61:2; Eccl 7:4). In short, the mourning of the elect of God will become a prayer to God for their deliverance from Great Tribulation, and the longing for the arrival of Jesus Christ the Messiah which will hasten the coming of the Lord will become the salvation of the elect of the remnant of the nation of Israel and also for the elect of God from around the world who believe God through Jesus Christ (Matt 24:31; 2 Tim 4:8).
Much Blessings....
Answer : Greetings in Jesus wonderful name! First of all we must take that verse from Rom 11:26 in context and see what it really says. Here it is, "25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.”" (Rom 11:25-27). We see in the above verse the mystery of God is being revealed by Paul who has said, that blindness to Israel as a nation towards Jesus as the Messiah will continue until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in to the Church, and once the Church is raptured before the Tribulation begins, then God will turn towards the nation of Israel to turn them away from ungodliness of unbelief towards the Messiah, through allowing them to go through the Tribulation and thus will purge their sins away to make them realize that they have rejected Jesus their Messiah in His first coming and will begin to make them say and welcome with their mourning and prayer to Yeshua their Messiah saying, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord," then will Jesus appear on earth to them to rescue them during the time of the Battle of Armageddon from the Antichrist (Matt 23:39; Zech 14:2-4; Rev 19:19-21). The time of Jacob's trouble which is the Great Tribulation is given mainly to the nation of Israel to correct them from unbelief and to make them seek God so that He will be able to save the nation of Israel out of it (Jer 30:7, 11; Hos 5:15). Clearly God expects the nation of Israel to confess her national sin and plead for Messiah to return, to mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son. So when Paul says "all Israel will be saved" when the Deliverer will come out of Zion, he does not say that on the day they see Jesus they will be saved, but rather he emphasizes that all the repentant of the nation of Israel that is mourning, praying and expecting the Messiah already by having received the salvation of God by faith through the outpouring of God's Spirit will receive the actual salvation of physical deliverance of the remnant nation from the iron clutches of the Antichrist and the insidious plan of Antichrist to destroy them completely (Zech 12:10-11; 13:8-9). God will purge the Jewish "rebels" who are non-elect during the Tribulation period (Zechariah 13:9; Ezek. 20:38). Two third of the entire nation of Israel will die through the Great Tribulation and only one third of them will be taken through the fire of God which will refine them as sliver is refined and as gold is tested, these are the ones who will be saved through the Tribulation spiritually and will mourn and supplicate by Spirit's grace to God to send the Messiah Jesus to come and rescue them from extinction and annihilation of the Antichrist. The purging process will result in removal of the rebel, leaving the believing remnant who will then be brought "into the bond of the covenant" (Ezek. 20:37). Ezekiel foresaw the time of Tribulation, and told that the Lord is going to "gather you [Israel] and blow on you with the fire of My wrath [i.e The Tribulation], and you will be melted in the midst of it" (Ezek. 22:21). Thus tribulation will be used by God to purge the rebels who do not believe the Messiah Jesus Christ, and establish the elect through pouring out His Spirit on them. This shows to us that physical salvation of the nation will succeed the spiritual salvation of the nation of Israel through the Great Tribulation and not the other way around. The time this is predicted to occur is "in the latter days" (Jer. 30:24) or "the end time" (Dan. 12:9).
So the false notion that when Israel mourns, it will be the mourning of repentance by Jews when they see the returning Messiah, which is thought of as Israel's national conversion, cannot be entertained as the truth anymore as we have seen it above clearly. No human needs faith to see and believe (2 Cor 5:7), but rather when one does not see yet believe that is considered worthy by God to give His salvation to those who believe and receive it by grace through faith (Eph 2:8-9). When Isaiah the prophet speaks of the nation of Israel being born "in one day" (Isa 66:8), it was not the birth of nation at the second coming of Jesus Christ as it will be already there in existence, but it rather speaks about the birth of the nation of Israel on May 14, 1948, when all the Jews of all the 12 tribes being in exile for nearly two millennium without a homeland or any individual identity suddenly returned back, and in a single day those who were staying in their own land as refugees without rights suddenly became a nation in to existence in the world map miraculously amid all the enemies surrounding it, through United Nations agreement with them and certain other powerful nations standing beside it by the grace of God.
We see during Jesus' Second Coming, not only the nation of Israel mourning, but it is said in the Bible that all the earth will mourn (Matt 24:30). We know that the unbeliever will mourn seeing Jesus that will make them realize judgment and punishment for their grave sins are inevitable, thus abandoning all hope of Satan's ultimate triumph through Antichrist and False Prophet. Here is what Bible describes about the whole earth mourning, “Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him [i.e. nation of Israel], and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him” (Revelation 1:7 ESV). In other words the whole earth will mourn and wail because they will realize judgment has finally come upon them and that they are not ready for God's judgment. The day is coming when the whole world will see Jesus as he really is, (i.e.) as the Lion of the tribe of Judah and as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Second Coming of Christ will be “with power and great glory.” The pride and mockery of men and demonic world will cease to exist after His Second Coming because Jesus the Messiah will rule the world with a rod of Iron. When that happens, every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:9-11).
The Jews will be looking on him whom they have pierced. To their utter astonishment they will discover that the One who appears in power and great glory bears in his hands the marks of nails and in his side the wound of a spear (Zech 12:10-14). Of course, all the world is guilty of piercing the Son of God (Heb 10:29; 6:4-5, 6), but the Jews were particular instruments in that respect (Acts 2:36; Rev 1:7). As Israel will mourn knowing their unworthiness in receiving Jesus Christ for His love, mercy and grace which He had already shown towards them through pouring out His Spirit during the Great Tribulation and saving them even before the time of His Second Coming even though they have all rejected and killed Him at His first coming to their nation (Zech 12:10, 11; 13:1). Even apostle Peter agrees with this truth in Acts 3:17-26 and says, that the return of Christ to bring about the "times of refreshing" is contingent upon their conversion. Also James the apostle also agrees with this truth to say that, God has first visited the Gentiles to take a people for His name [i.e. the Church from all nations and tongues], and once the Church is raptured before Great Tribulation starts, then He will return to the nation of Israel to rebuild the tabernacle of David, rebuild its ruins, to set up His Glory in its midst so that the rest of the mankind who are the Gentiles may seek the Lord and might again be called by the name of God (Acts 15:14-15, 16-17). So Israel as a nation will repent before Christ returns to the earth to rule the world from it.
We know that even though God's people in Egypt were oppressed for a long time, God was seeing it all, but only when they cried or groaned to God about it, God heard their cry because of the taskmasters who oppressed them. Then God told that he understood their sorrows or pain, therefore God came to meet Moses through the burning bush, and sent Moses as His representative to free them and liberate them from oppression to make them do His will and continue to serve and worship Him (Exod 3:7-10). I believe the same will happen through the Tribulation of the end, when the people of God in Israel will be killed by Antichrist through the hard taskmasters and oppressed greatly, their groaning, weeping and crying will reach the throne of God, and therefore God will send Yeshua the Messiah to go and deliver them from the evil plan of Antichrist who will be hell bent on destroying and annihilating them completely.
We see the Bowls of the Wrath of God being poured upon the earth before the Great Tribulation ends, and it was specifically poured upon the kingdom of Antichrist, God was actually expecting the people who followed Satan to repent and turn from their evil ways even through the Tribulation of those days, but when they will harden their heart and instead will start to blaspheme the God of heaven who rules the earth by siding up with Satan, Antichrist and False Prophet, immediately God will seriously deal in judgment through the wrath of God's destruction upon man’s sinful Satan inspired kingdoms of this world (Rev 16:1-21). The event of the appearance of Christ at His Second Coming will be preceded by the appearance of "the sign of the Son of man" in the heavens. We know that some people who will repent of their sins will mourn for the Messiah, but still others will mourn grudgingly seeing the sign of Jesus Second Coming on the sky and therefore will mourn against the judgment that is going to come and will run for a cover or in to hiding (Amos 8:8; Mark 5:7; 2 Cor 7:9-10; Rev 6:12-14, 15-16, 17). Those who mourn to hasten the coming of the Messiah will be blessed and comforted (Matt 5:4; Jam 4:9-10; Isa 61:2; Eccl 7:4). In short, the mourning of the elect of God will become a prayer to God for their deliverance from Great Tribulation, and the longing for the arrival of Jesus Christ the Messiah which will hasten the coming of the Lord will become the salvation of the elect of the remnant of the nation of Israel and also for the elect of God from around the world who believe God through Jesus Christ (Matt 24:31; 2 Tim 4:8).
Much Blessings....
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