Is Satan Already Fallen Or Yet To Fall?

When Did Jesus See Satan "Fall Like Lightning"?

Question : When Did Jesus See Satan "Fall Like Lightning"?

Answer: Greetings in Jesus wonderful name! There are possible three answers that can be assumed from the topic of Satan falling like lightning. In the past it could have happened and can be categorized in group one. During the present time when Jesus was alive and well on the earth doing ministry, he could have seen Satan fall like lightning down to the earth which can be categorized as group two. Or else Jesus could have looked in to the future and could have seen Satan fall like lightning just before the great Tribulation could begin on the planet earth and this can be categorized as group three.

Because Jesus was God before He became a man (John 8:58), Jesus in the beginning could have seen Satan fall like lightning when God threw him down after he became proud and wanted to be like God (Isa 14:12-17; Ezek 28:2-8, 13-17, 18-19), at that time he took one third of angels with him and created chaos in the planet earth which was supposed to be created and inhabited by humans by that time (Gen 1:2; Rev 12:4). This is the first group that believes that it had happened in the past.

If we look in to the verse which says that Jesus has seen Satan "Fall Like Lightning", it is in Luke 10:17-20 which was spoken in context of Jesus sending out at once seventy disciples to work miracles, and to preach, when they return back Jesus started a feedback conversation of how well their ministry went which continues like this, "17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.” 18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”"

The second group look at this verse as something that happened at the time when Jesus gave His delegated authority to the disciples, and when Satan and his minions came against the disciples, just like they were defeated by Jesus' power again and again, the same power acted through these disciples and Satan was seen by Jesus "Fall Like Lightning" again and again. This is what I believe to be the true meaning of what Jesus has expressed. In the Old Testament, we cannot see even one time Satan or his demons being cast out with the authority of God's kingdom, because He and his tyrants were at loose to rule the world with iron grip of evil deception. Once the wilderness experience started for Jesus, for the first time on planet earth a sinless man in the pre-fallen state of Adam was set forth by God before Satan and his demons to be tested again after four thousand years of fallen men against whom Satan was the undisputed champion in his war against mankind in which they have been made to sin and thus was taken captive by Satan and his demons to keep them in their own authority.

When Jesus was tempted in all the ways for forty days and still he remained without sin, Satan became furious and appeared this time as a person before Jesus to test Him face to face. But in all the three temptation, Jesus overcome Satan and remained sinless before Satan and his demons. Thus for the first time, the authority of spiritual realm that Satan and his demons maintained over humans was suddenly taken back by Jesus which God gifted to Him by the power of the Holy Spirit (Matt 4:1-11; Luke 4:1-14). As the authority of Satan was taken back by the last Adam Jesus Christ through whom a new creation of a new world of God's kingdom suddenly was formed in the spiritual realm (1 Cor 15:45; 2 Cor 5:17), Satan's authority of receiving from heaven power on behalf of people with out any restraint from God was suddenly disputed and bound through Jesus (Matt 12:28, 29-30). From that time onward, once the power of the Kingdom of heaven came directly through Jesus to the earth, Satan was looking for a opportune time to make Jesus sin, and thus take back the mighty authority he had lost in the spiritual realm, but by the grace of God, Satan and his demons were never able to succeed in their evil plan against Jesus.

So personally I am in the second group that believes that Jesus did see Satan "fall like lightning" again and again after he delegated his very own authority over Satan and his demons to the disciples, in which they were astonished to see Satan and his demons subject to them when they started to cast them all out of people whom they met. Each time Satan went to heaven to take the power over these people who were sent by Jesus, the angels on duty at heaven's door rejected Satan's entry in to heaven as he had no permission this time to access the power of God, and when he persisted to take on the power of God on behalf of people, he was thrown down by these guarding angels from heaven of which he was not able to resist and therefore fell down like lightning from heaven to earth being powerless over the disciples of Jesus or over Jesus. Thus the strong man Satan was bound by Jesus, and the house of the body of people from which Satan was operating, of which the demonic guards were occupying was plundered by the disciples of Jesus who made way for the Holy Spirit and the angels of God to guard over them and make them a part of the Kingdom of God (2 Cor 6:16-18; 1 Cor 6:19-20; Heb 1:14).

So the third category can be the time in the future in which Satan might fall like lightning from heaven once and for all time before the Great Tribulation could start. This we can see in the following verses, "7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”" (Rev 12:7-12). Did Jesus see this fall 2000 years before it had happened? Of course Jesus knew this will happen soon in the time to come, but at that time Jesus was in context speaking to the disciples about how he had seen Satan and his demonic power being made void and useless by the kingdom power that God the Father unleashed through them, and that is why they were able to see demons being subject to them as they were children of God with their names being written in heaven (Luke 10:17-20, 24).

When Jesus died on the Cross, 'the undisputed ruler of this world' title that Satan kept from the time in the beginning when He deceived Adam to sin, was lost and Jesus was crowned by God the Father with all authority as the ruler of the earth and all the universe after he rose from the grave (John 12:31; Matt 28:18; Col 2:14, 15). So after the death and resurrection of Jesus, he was crowned as 'King of kings and Lord of Lords' by God the Father who gave Him a separate Kingdom with all his authority to sit at the right hand of Him to be a ruler over the world and all the universe as a man (Php 2:9-11; Col 1:13; 1 Tim 2:3, 4-5, 6). Praise the Lord! For those who believe in the first and third category are also right, but they have not interpreted the Scripture about Satan "Fall Like Lightning" accurately according to the context.

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Is Hell A Fire Or Just A Waste Burning Pit?

How Can You Make Mentally Retarded People Believe In Christ? Will All Humans Be Saved Even Without Their Personal Faith?

Question : Praise the Lord, pastor. One of my FB friends, who is a pastor, posted day before yesterday, that Salvation is for all. Then he asked the question, 'How can you make mentally retarded people believe in Christ?,' and also he added, 'You cannot go and preach to all in the globe, means God saves people without the gospel of salvation too?'....such like points he shared. I've replied this is a modern day heresy, Universalism. Then he replied, Christians in our nation are reading the Bible to be judgemental and condemning others always.... He also stated, Christ came to this world not only for Christians, but for all mankind. Then, in another post, he stated hell is not fire, it was Gehenna, a place to burn waste only ...I wonder how a pastor teaches contradictions like these ....is it another gospel? Please clarify these in your website, pastor. Thank You. God bless..

Answer: Greetings to you in Jesus name! Thanks for writing this important thing. This pastor is knowingly or unknowingly without self-realisation is a classical universalist who wants to make a case for salvation outside of the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I choose to say the truth of the Bible that Salvation is for all humans but not outside of accepting Jesus as one's Savior and themselves as sinners through hearing the gospel of Christ.

Here is what the apostle Paul says about this issue, "3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, 7 for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying—a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth." (1 Tim 2:3-7). In the above verse we see that God desires all men to be saved, but how?, through coming to know the knowledge of truth which is the fact that there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, so that all who hear the gospel through preacher's and apostle's should receive in faith the truth that they hear to be saved by God from sin and receive eternal life. So the truth of the gospel of Jesus creates a faith in the heart of those who hear and believe it, this saves the sinful people from sin to have friendship with God for eternity ahead (John 3:16).

So can a person be saved apart from hearing the Gospel of Jesus Christ and believing it?

No it is not possible at all, that is why one of the greatest of all apostle like Paul, clearly revealed in his writing asking all of us the question such as, "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?" (Rom 10:14). In other words, Paul the apostle was asking all readers of the Bible, how can someone believe the gospel unless it is preached or shared with the hearers or readers. So he emphasizes that God appoints people to preach the simple message of the gospel which is actually the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ which saves people from sin and death, and imparts eternal life to them (1 Cor 15:3-4). Praise the Lord!

So what does this teach us? It teaches us the importance of the Gospel message and its proclamation. Then it teaches us that only those who believe the message will be saved. Not all people who receive the Gospel accept it and humble themselves before God as sinners to receive salvation (2 Thess 3:2). But some do believe and get saved (Acts 17:34; 18:10; 16:14). With out faith, no one can please God to get saved from sin and receive eternal life (Heb 11:6). There may be thousands of people who hear the message of the gospel when it is preached to them, but the Lord opens the heart of only the sincere humble sinners who accept themselves as sinners and seek for God's salvation from sin through Jesus Christ his only begotten Son (Jam 4:8-10).

To those people who think that people can be saved outside of the message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, here is what Paul the apostle says to them, "20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe." (1 Cor 1:20-21). In other words the apostle Paul was saying to people who believed universalism which is actually the wisdom of the Greek world, and those who thought that miraculous sign of the power of God as when Moses did against Egypt and thereafter, is the authentication for a Jew to accept some new belief from God, got tripped by the message of the Gospel which has become a foolish message to them because of their worldly belief, so that knowingly it pleased God through the foolishness of the message of the Gospel of Jesus preached to save those who believe. Even today in our twenty first century God has not changed one bit, but expect to save all the foolish things of the world who believe.

Can all the people in the world can get saved? Yes indeed, but all do not get saved because even though they hear the Gospel of Jesus atleast once or many times, the message seems foolish to them and therefore they do not believe it. In others words, all have the potential to get saved if they believe, but they choose not to believe because the good news of Jesus seems very foolish to them. God gets pleased when he sees the simple guys who dare to believe the good news of Jesus and therefore he saves them from sin and gives them eternal life through Jesus Christ his only begotten Son. 

How can you make mentally retarded people believe in Christ?

See one of the way people who believe universalism try to justify their wrong belief is by diverting people and themselves to the question of unknown, and then point back to their lies, and then try to justify what they say to be right because all of their hearers do not have an answer for a unknown question they ask. This is one of the Satanic way to justify his lies and sugar coat it with half truth (John 8:43-45).

This is the same that Satan had done from the beginning of time,

"1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” 2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’” 4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”" (Gen 3:1-5).

In the above verse we see that once Eve expressed the half truth to Satan, immediately Satan speaks a full lie and she accepts without any rational thought or question the full lie of Satan which led her to sin and lawlessness, and thus the downfall of the whole humanity. Satan knows that half truth is the best way to deceive people and make them susceptible to sin of unbelief.

What is the half truth with this question, "How can you make mentally retarded people believe in Christ?". The half truth is God planned and allowed mentally retarded people to be born on earth (Exo 4:11). What is the lie that is mixed with the half truth? God is unjust to make people to be born retarded, and therefore he cannot justify his fault by condemning the retarded for something that they do not have the capacity to make a conscious decision to believe the Gospel? Therefore, God has to allow all humans to get saved through the Gospel of false grace that assumes that people can get finally saved by God without their belief of faith in this life. What does the Bible say about this? The Bible says that, "Once a man dies in this life, he does not have the ability to get saved after this life in the after-life, but will head straight to eternal judgment of condemnation only." (Heb 9:27, Paraphrased).

What are the lies assumed and spoken against the word of God? When the Word of God says, "God's way is perfect. All the LORD's promises prove true. He is a shield for all who look to him for protection." (2 Sam 22:31, NLT), the universalist try to assume that God is not perfect in creating mentally retarded people, and therefore is a harsh and hard master who reaps where he has not sown seed and gathering where he has not sown the seed of the Word of God (Matt 25:24; Luke 8:11). Because they falsely assume that God is unjust, they also assume that God will let go of unbelievers in to heaven to justify his own failure.

The people who believe universalism fail to consider the important truth that all humans are born in sin as the sons of Adam (Psa 51:5), and therefore all are declared to be sinners by God because all have sinned and have fallen short of the righteous requirement of a just God (Rom 3:23), so that God now can show mercy to those who accept honestly that they are sinners in need of the Savior Jesus (Rom 5:12, 17, 19; 9:14, 15, 16, 22-24). In other words, we as humans all deserve only hell for our sinful behaviors, but God has chosen to save the honest sinners who believe the foolish message of the Gospel and admit to God humbly that they are sinners in need of the Savior Jesus, to save them from sin to give them eternal life of heaven thereafter. God is just and therefore there is no way one sinner will ever have the opportunity to enter heaven outside of Jesus Christ.

We know that the mentally retarded people cannot be made to believe in Christ because they do not have the mental capacity to make a decision for or against Christ, so will a just God demand a mentally retarded on the day of judgment why they have not believed the Gospel when they had no capacity to believe? By no means a just God will ever demand unjustly a mentally retarded person to have a faith that was not within his conscious capability in the life that he lived on earth? So God will save these mentally retarded person from birth just like He saves the millions of children from the beginning of the world, as they do not have the capacity to take a decision on their own for or against Christ (Matt 18:10; 19:14). Until the age of accountability, all children born on this planet earth will be saved through Jesus Christ by His mercies as they do not have the conscious capability to take a decision for or against Christ (Rom 7:9; Deut 1:39; Matt 7:11).

Because God is just to sacrifice his own sinless begotten Son Jesus Christ for the sin of all humans, he can be just and also the justifier of all those who have faith in Jesus which is the righteousness of God presented as gift to all humans who do not deserve it (Rom 3:26). So just because a lie is assumed by universalist, it cannot make their half truth to become a full truth. A lie is a lie and also any percentage of truth that is less that the perfect 100% truth, it becomes a lie. So the truth of God is, no matter whether a person have sinned once in life or have been a sinner all his life, if he only humbly comes before God as a wretched sinner in need of a Savior and comes to believe God for salvation apart from works of his that he has done (Rom 4:4-5), God saves Him through Jesus Christ immediately and gives Him eternal life.

Apart from belief and faith personally received in one's heart, no truth proclaimed has the power to save. Now we know for sure, that unless a man was given a chance by God to hear the good news at least once in his lifetime, how can a just God judge any human in all the globe for rejecting the righteousness of God? Because God is a just God, he will make sure that all humans gets at least one chance to hear the Gospel of Jesus once in their life time where they would have rejected it. So we know that God never saves people without the gospel of salvation.

So universalism is not just a modern day heresy, but a age old lie of the devil to keep the world deceived from receiving the true salvation in Christ Jesus. To defend a lie, he is accusing you as judgemental and condemning others always. To tell the truth that people will go to hell fire without Jesus Christ is not judgmental or condemning, it is love that is concealed and expressed, and apostle Paul said the same about the unbelievers in love saying, "8 Those who refuse to know God and refuse to obey the Message will pay for what they've done. 9 Eternal exile from the presence of the Master and his splendid power is their sentence." (2 Thess 1:8-9, MSG). Is the above passage a judgment? Yes a righteous judgment. Is the above passage a condemnation, yes a righteous condemnation for all the unbelievers who have rejected the good news of God given to them for salvation. Is it really love of God to speak the truth? Yes it is the love of God to speak the truth of faith with love (Gal 5:6; 1 Cor 13:6).

As I have already said, the universalist will always use half truth to justify their lies and will not stand on the perfect truth of the Word of God, these following statement you can notice are half truth and very general, Christ came to this world not only for Christians, but for all mankind....so will all mankind be saved without faith? By no means, consider the goodness and severity of God, to those who are saved goodness and those who remain unsaved severity (Rom 11:22).

Then when that pastor says, 'hell is not fire, it was Gehenna, a place to burn waste only', he is playing with words...simply read what Jesus has already said about hell which is fire, "47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire— 48 where ‘Their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched." (Mark 9:47-48). Here the Greek word used is 'Gehenna' which can only mean hell fire as all the references to gehenna, except James 3:6, are from the lips of Christ himself, and there is an obvious emphasis on the punishment for the wicked after death as being everlasting, fire is never quenched, nor does the worm die, and both will torment the unbelievers as they will gnash their teeth in it forever. All the unbelievers will go in to the lake of fire after the White Throne Judgment of works of unbelievers (Rev 20:11-15).

In the last days the so called pastoral wolves who feed the sugar coated lies of half truth to satisfy the itching ears of those who live for themselves in sin and unbelief, will not stand in truth but will deceive and will be deceived themselves (2 Timothy 3:13; 4:3, 4, KJV), "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." Paul uses the word fables, or myths, to describe the remedy that people seek in order to scratch their itching ears. The Burning Garbage Dump of Gehenna is also a myth to deceive and turn people to trust lies. Turning again to the Gospel of the truth of Jesus Christ is the only cure for deception and lies. Yes this pastor's so called gospel of universalism is purely an another Gospel of the end time and last days (Gal 1:8).

Remind yourself with the reminder of the great prince of preachers quote, "Avoid a sugared gospel as you would shun sugar of lead. Seek the gospel which rips up and tears and cuts and wounds and hacks and even kills, for that is the gospel that makes alive again. And when you have found it, give good heed to it. Let it enter into your inmost being. As the rain soaks into the ground, so pray the Lord to let his gospel soak into your soul."

May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ keep all the believers in the true Gospel of salvation which is only by grace through faith and not turn away to a different gospel to fall from the grace and thus lose all the heavenly reward that God has for all true believers in the future life of glory with Him (Gal 1:6; 5:4).

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Are We Now God's Sons Or Sin's Slaves Still?

Can A Believer Be Still A Slave Of Sin After His Salvation?

Question : Can a believer be still a slave of sin after his or her salvation? Why I am asking you this question is, a Bible teacher and a very good preacher of the Word of God referred to this passage from John 8:34, "...Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin" and pointed out that in this verse Jesus was in context speaking to believing Jews, and therefore it is better for a believer to acknowledge to God that we are slave to sin when we are involved in sinful habits that enslaves us. When we are honest in admitting to God that we are slaves to sin, then God delivers us from sinful bondage's he said. Is this reasoning right or wrong? Who was Jesus speaking to actually, to believers or unbelievers?

Answer: Greetings to you in Jesus name! See to find the context in a passage especially in New Testament, we should check with the immediate context of the preceding and succeeding verses, and then still if we are not clear with the audience to which Jesus was speaking to, immediately we should refer to the bigger context of the size of the crowd in the verses beyond the immediate one and deduct the percentage of changes that happened among the crowd to know how many are still in the old crowd after the changes.

Here it is, "28 Then Jesus said to them, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things. 29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him.” 30 As He spoke these words, many believed in Him. 31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered Him, “We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free’?” 34 Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed. 37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”" (John 8:28-38, NKJV).

In the above verses Jesus was first speaking to the religious Jews generally and was telling to them that only they will come to understand that He is their Messiah when they lift Him on up on the Cross to die for their sins. Then he said to them that He does nothing without God the Father, whatever He had taught Jesus, those are the only things that He is speaking about, nothing more or nothing less than that. Then Jesus said that God the Father is with Him and that He has not left Him alone because He always does things pleasing to Him. At this point of time from the general group of religious Jews, hearing the Word of Jesus some believed Him and were saved. Then immediately to the brand new born again believers He said, "31...If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." In other words, all the new believers Jesus wanted them to grow and become mature disciple of Him in their thoughts and actions. Jesus promises to them that if they continue to abide in His word, they will be His disciple. And Jesus continued saying that if they come to know the truth that all their sins were forgiven and get the assurance of it by continuing to be a disciple of His (1 John 3:24; 4:13; John 14:21), then the truth of the forgiveness of all the past, present and future sins from God will free their lives of all condemnation of the enemy Satan and his demonic cohorts forever (Rom 8:1).

Remember, Jesus was still speaking the truth before the religious hard nut unsaved Jews among whom some were supernaturally saved by the Father at that time, so immediately the religious Jews who were still unsaved shot back to Jesus saying, "We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free’?” These religious Jews who were unsaved were already politically enslaved by Romans, religiously enslaved by pride and spiritually enslaved by sin nature acting within them. To these Jews, "...34 Jesus replied to them saying, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed." In other words to the prideful religious unsaved Jews, Jesus was saying, "All humans are slaves to sin by the sin nature that acts within them to make them commit sin (Eccl 7:20; Jer 17:9; Rom 7:20, 24; 1 John 1:8), a slave of sin who is a unbeliever does not continue to live in this physical body [i.e. house or temple of God (John 2:19)] after his death because sin's wages is death [i.e. separation from God and his goodness of living in the physical body] (Rom 6:23). But a believer who is God's son will live in their body after their physical death because I will come again with them from heaven to raise them up in the resurrection of life (Gal 3:26; John 5:29), after which they will live forever with God enjoying His goodness in their meta physical supernatural body for eternity ahead. Only when I set you free from the slavery of sin by forgiving you of your sins, only then you will become spiritually free from the slavery of sin by becoming a son of God."

Hearing what Jesus said to the unbelievers, they did not understand the spiritual truth of his message, and so again He bluntly gives them plain understanding by saying further to them, "37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”"". In other words Jesus tells the unbelieving Jews, 'I know that you are Abraham's physical descendant, but that doesn't make you a child of God, but hearing my word and receiving it by faith only makes you a child of God. You are trying to kill me because you are a unbeliever still, I speak what God My Father reveals to me in my mind, you do what your father Satan tries to show you to do in your mind.'

The unbelievers are pawn in the hands of Satan and his demons, so Jesus' message of a slave of sin is not to the believers but rather was a message to the unbeliever as the context has been expounded clearly in the above paragraphs.

After believing Jesus through faith, we are no more a slave of sin but a son of God and a daughter of God (Gal 3:26). According to God, sin shall not have any more dominion over you unless you give it power over you by giving in to the temptation to sin (Rom 6:14; Jam 1:13-15).

When you have sinned, sin's power over you can once again get broken, when you confess your sins again to God through faith in the blood of Jesus and the word of God that promises cleansing from all sins (1 John 1:7, 9; Heb 4:14-16; Rev 12:11). In other words, when we acknowledge to God that we have sinned when we sin, the light of God breaks away any sin that tries to bind us in its chain of darkness, and the blood of Jesus immediately starts to cleanse us from all our unrighteousness. This is the true deliverance that we need in our lives again and again as a believer, and nothing more than this. Though sometimes some besetting sins might seem to shake our faith whether we are slave of sin or the son of God, our faith should safely rest on the faithfulness of God in Jesus name, and not on any methods or means that God uses sometimes to deliver a believer from sinful addictions or habits. We cannot become any more than what we are already in Christ Jesus. That is our highest position before God now and forever! We as a saint might sin, but that cannot make us a sinner because we have the option to confess our sin again to God and become cleansed by the blood of Jesus and be washed by the word of truth. We are not sinners who try to become saints, we are saints who sin sometimes but stay as saints because we are in Christ Jesus and His blood washes away all our sins! Hallelujah!  

The reasoning by the preacher was wrong, because the context taken was focused on one word John 8:34, then it was wrongly related with the preceding verses John 8:30-31 and the surrounding first audience of Jesus who were still unbelievers around Him were neglected totally. To make it simple, we can say a group of unbelievers were there. When they hear the words of Jesus, some believed Him and got saved. Then Jesus speaks to those some believers to continue as His disciple and be free from the power of sin, immediately the prideful majority of Jewish unbelievers surrounding them were sarcastic in their reply, then Jesus speaks to those unbelieving Jews, of which John 8:34 is a answer to them. Just because some of the Jews were saved doesn't mean that we should assume wrongly from that point on, all have become believers and that Jesus is speaking to the believers from that point onward.

Because we are God's sons now, a believer can no more be a slave of sin after his salvation. Only those who have sin can get condemned (Rom 6:23), because all the sins of believers have been taken up by Jesus through His baptism that He received from John the Baptist, and all the just demand of God for freeing all sinners have been paid in full by Jesus' sinless life lived on earth and the death on the Cross (Matt 3:15; John 19:30), now there is no more any condemnation for the sin of all believers (Rom 8:1). When Christ rose from the dead, it was a message from God to all humanity that they who will believe Christ have been forgiven of all their past, present and future sins, and according to God the Father, before His eyes all these believers will no more be in their sins anymore as God has imputed Jesus' perfect righteousness in their spiritual account in heaven from the moment they have become God's adopted child in His family forevermore (1 Cor 15:14, 16-17; 2 Cor 5:17-18, 21). Hallelujah!!! Glory be to God!!!

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